A STATEMENT FROM THE PRESIDENT & VICE-PRESIDENTS - RPRA
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A STATEMENT FROM THE PRESIDENT & VICE-PRESIDENTS - R.P.R.A.
Unread postby john@formula 1 lofts » Wed Nov 05, 2014 10:56 pm
I have been asked to post this by the president and vice presidents of the RPRA.
Brian Walsh (President), John Gladwin, Ray Harris & Geoff Richmond (Vice-Presidents) were all elected at the RPRA AGM.
All four of us were new to the top table but highly experienced officials in various capacities within our sport. We were honoured to have been elected and under Brian’s leadership were keen to work together as a ‘team’ for the benefit of the RPRA.
Shortly after our appointment a ‘disciplinary issue arose’ following two formal letters of complaint from senior staff who had worked for the R.P.R.A. for many years, against the General Manager, which we were legally obliged to investigate. We immediately took advice from the RPRA’s solicitors ‘Rickerby’s’, and throughout our investigation their advice was followed at all times. As a part of our assessment we considered it both necessary and useful to talk to all staff at ‘The Reddings’. This we hoped would clarify issues relating to the ‘legal matter’, but also allow us to introduce ourselves, get to know the staff as individuals and understand their jobs. This was beneficial on many levels, with some staff explaining how we could help them do their jobs better and improvements they would like to see in their work place. These interviews took two full days. Only one member of staff who was on holiday was not interviewed. The time however was well spent as it brought to light practices we considered unsatisfactory and others that required change.
The outcome of the disciplinary matter was a formal letter to the General Manager of our findings, the contents of which again were approved by the R.P.R.A’s solicitors Rickerby’s. He was advised of our findings and given a letter relating to his future conduct. The G.M. responded to this with a five page ‘Open Letter’ sent by email and post to all Councillors listing his own grievances, many concerning the President and Vice-Presidents and his interpretations on a multitude of issues. These were largely on general matters, unrelated to the formal letters of complaint.
Such was the intensity of this letter that fifteen Councillors requested a ‘Special Meeting’ to discuss both the circumstances of the disciplinary matter and to give the G.M. a chance to appeal directly to Council on the outcome of our formal enquiry.
The President replied to each Councillor with his own letter, advising them that the matter would be discussed at the October meeting. The meeting of Councillors on 23rd October 2014 was not a ‘special meeting’ nor was it a ‘full Council meeting. The Council meetings were clearly advertised for the 24th and 25th October 2014.
The meeting on the 23rd October 2014 was a courtesy meeting for Councillors, called by the President and Vice-presidents with two aims. Firstly to allow the Association's solicitor to explain the procedure that had to be followed under employment law, whereby the complaints made by two of our most senior staff members had been heard. Theses members of staff had ten and fourteen years service and were amongst our most experienced and valued.
The second reason was to address the rants contained in the G.M’s ‘Open Letter’ to all Councillors, sent after he had been issued with a final written warning.
With regard to any appeal by the General Manager, Rickerby’s advice had been that the G.M. could appeal, but that this would need to be heard by an H.R. firm specialising in employment issues, as the four senior officials of the RPRA had all been involved in the initial hearing.
The G.M. had also complicated issues by writing to all Councillors with his own version of events. This left no-one in the organization who had not made some sort of judgement on the matter. All Councillors had therefore become briefed leaving no-one with an unbiased view. The ‘G.M.’s appeal therefore by necessity had to be heard by an independent body. The G.M. was therefore asked to select from three choices of H.R. Consultants all based in or around Cheltenham. This would have given him a totally independent assessment of his case. This he declined to take up.
On 23rd October at 1.30p.m. the President addressed Councillors. He introduced the solicitor from Rickerby’s, who had been asked to attend to advise Councillors on employment law procedure and answer their questions. The President and Vice-Presidents had followed the RPRA’s Solicitors advice throughout the process but felt it would be helpful to Councillors to be able to put their own questions directly.
However a proposition was received from the Cumbria Region to ask any non RPRA members to leave the room. This was passed. After some discussion a second proposition was received ‘Not to hear the solicitor’s advice’. This was also passed and she was informed that she could leave the building.
The President had prepared a full written response to the G.M’s ‘Open Letter’ for each Councillor and stood up to explain its contents. However the mood of the meeting was such that he had little chance to speak. After about ten minutes a proposition was received from an E.M.R Councillor of “No confidence in the President and Vice-Presidents”. This was seconded by the N.E Region. The President and Vice-Presidents were also told that they were not allowed to vote on this issue.
The voting was 13 For and 9 Against. Had the four officials been allowed to vote as in RPRA Rule 54 the voting would have been 13 For and 13 Against so the ‘status quo’ would have remained.
Our Points are:-
The solicitor should have been heard.
The President’s response to the legal issue and the G.M’s Open Letter should have been heard.
The conclusion must be that certain Councillors were disinterested in the answers and therefore working to a different agenda.
The facts remain that the four officials remain in office:
RPRA Rule 39 is quite clear ……..that the President & Vice-Presidents shall be elected at the A.G.M. from four different Regions and shall hold office for one year. …..
It is also a fact that Votes of ‘No Confidence’ simply reflect the mood of a meeting on one particular day and do not require officials to ‘stand down’.
Brian Walsh (RPRA – President:) John Gladwin, Ray Harris & Geoff Richmond (Vice-Presidents).
http://www.formula1lofts.com please have a look at our web site
John Gladwin
flying name Gladwin & Jarvis
Further Update -
The statement by Les Blacklock, Richard Carlton, Pat Mitchell and Brian Tattersall gives no clarification of the meeting of councillors held on 23rd October 2014.
A proposition from the north east region was on the agenda for the council meeting on 24 October 2014.This proposition had been received at the Reddings by the general manager on 7th October 2014 too late to be included on the council agenda for October as per R.P.R.A. Rule 48.
The proposition passed at the north east region on the 4th October 2014, sent by letter dated 6th October 2014 proposed a vote of no confidence in the R.P.R.A .president and vice-presidents and requires them to leave office with immediate effect'.
R.P.R.A. Rule 39 states 'The officers of the association shall be a president and 3 vice-presidents who shall be elected from delegates representing 4 different local regions at the A.G.M. of the association and shall hold office for one year'.
The vote taken on the proposition (13 for with 9 against) was not taken in accordance with the rules of the R.P.R.A.
R.P.R.A. Rule 54 states 'Each councillor shall have 1 vote’. There are 27 councillors. Some councillors' votes were not counted.
The meeting was not called to order before a vote was taken for an acting chairman and 3 advisors, now called support councillors.(Not one of these positions is recognised under R.P.R.A. Rules).
Many councillors were out of the room. The vote for acting chairman was 14 for with 1 against and 0 abstentions. The vote for the advisors was 11 for with 0 against and 8 abstentions.
Les Blacklock quotes R.P.R.A. Rule 38, but only in part. R.P.R.A. Rule 38 states 'The ultimate control of the affairs of the association shall be exercised by the council in general meeting.....'
This does give council the democratic right to remove any officer from office that has been elected under R.P.R.A. Rule 39.
It is important to consider how council arrived at this position.
It is a fact that e-mails had been sent by the general manager to all councillors.
It is a fact that a special meeting was called for under R.P.R.A. Rule 51.
R.P.R.A. Rule 51 requires the signatures of the councillors requesting the meeting. There were not 15 signatures as suggested by Les Blacklock, but enough for the request to be considered by the president and vice-presidents
R.P.R.A. rule states ’Only business of a non-routine or urgent nature shall be dealt with at a special meeting of the council but the decision of the president and vice-presidents as to whether any matter is non-routine or urgent is final.
Fact .The signatory councillors wanted a special meeting to hear the appeal of Stewart Wardrop against the disciplinary action taken against him.
Fact. The president did refuse to call a special meeting.
The advice from the association's solicitor was that the appeal of Stewart Wardrop must be heard by an outside HR company. The general manager had been given a choice from 3.
The president called a meeting of councillors for 23rd October 2014 to advise of the actions taken with regard to the general manager. The association's solicitor was invited to the meeting to advise on employment law and to answer any questions.
A number of councillors would not hear the solicitor speak and shouted down the president when he attempted to address the meeting.
There was a special meeting called in 2009 and I was one of those that signed the request.
The meeting was requested because the president, Les Blacklock, and the vice-presidents were breaking R.P.R.A .rules. They wanted to change R.P.R.A .rule 241 by using R.P.R.A. rule 142 and get councillors to agree by the means of a 'round robin'.
R.P.R.A. Rule 142 states 'That council shall have power to make and alter rules and regulations to cover any emergency. Such rules and regulations may be made or altered at a general meeting or a special meeting...'
If the rule was to be altered it had to be done at a special meeting of council as the rule states.
In this case a special meeting was not called because Stewart Wardrop's appeal could not be heard at council. Council recognised this fact by passing a proposition on the 23rd October 2014 that the general manager's appeal should be heard by an outside HR company.
The issue has not been snowballed into a full blown debate as those that say they will keep the R.P.R.A. functional will not let the other side of the argument be heard.
They have prevented the editor from publishing my letters, which I had hoped would keep the membership informed.
Les Blacklock talks of democracy and democratic rights. Where is my democratic right to let the membership know my side of the debate?
Let us not forget the real reason why this situation as arisen. Two long serving members of staff at the Reddings had made written complaints against Stewart Wardrop .The general manager stated that as general manager he was the only one able to hear their grievances.
The president and vice-presidents took advice from the association's solicitors they advised that the grievances must be heard by the president and vice-presidents. The solicitor's advice was followed throughout the grievance procedure.
Sadly the R.P.R.A .have lost a very valuable member of staff who had worked for the association for 10 years because she was unable to work any longer with Stewart Wardrop.
Ray Harris
Vice President
A STATEMENT FROM THE PRESIDENT & VICE-PRESIDENTS - R.P.R.A.
Unread postby john@formula 1 lofts » Wed Nov 05, 2014 10:56 pm
I have been asked to post this by the president and vice presidents of the RPRA.
Brian Walsh (President), John Gladwin, Ray Harris & Geoff Richmond (Vice-Presidents) were all elected at the RPRA AGM.
All four of us were new to the top table but highly experienced officials in various capacities within our sport. We were honoured to have been elected and under Brian’s leadership were keen to work together as a ‘team’ for the benefit of the RPRA.
Shortly after our appointment a ‘disciplinary issue arose’ following two formal letters of complaint from senior staff who had worked for the R.P.R.A. for many years, against the General Manager, which we were legally obliged to investigate. We immediately took advice from the RPRA’s solicitors ‘Rickerby’s’, and throughout our investigation their advice was followed at all times. As a part of our assessment we considered it both necessary and useful to talk to all staff at ‘The Reddings’. This we hoped would clarify issues relating to the ‘legal matter’, but also allow us to introduce ourselves, get to know the staff as individuals and understand their jobs. This was beneficial on many levels, with some staff explaining how we could help them do their jobs better and improvements they would like to see in their work place. These interviews took two full days. Only one member of staff who was on holiday was not interviewed. The time however was well spent as it brought to light practices we considered unsatisfactory and others that required change.
The outcome of the disciplinary matter was a formal letter to the General Manager of our findings, the contents of which again were approved by the R.P.R.A’s solicitors Rickerby’s. He was advised of our findings and given a letter relating to his future conduct. The G.M. responded to this with a five page ‘Open Letter’ sent by email and post to all Councillors listing his own grievances, many concerning the President and Vice-Presidents and his interpretations on a multitude of issues. These were largely on general matters, unrelated to the formal letters of complaint.
Such was the intensity of this letter that fifteen Councillors requested a ‘Special Meeting’ to discuss both the circumstances of the disciplinary matter and to give the G.M. a chance to appeal directly to Council on the outcome of our formal enquiry.
The President replied to each Councillor with his own letter, advising them that the matter would be discussed at the October meeting. The meeting of Councillors on 23rd October 2014 was not a ‘special meeting’ nor was it a ‘full Council meeting. The Council meetings were clearly advertised for the 24th and 25th October 2014.
The meeting on the 23rd October 2014 was a courtesy meeting for Councillors, called by the President and Vice-presidents with two aims. Firstly to allow the Association's solicitor to explain the procedure that had to be followed under employment law, whereby the complaints made by two of our most senior staff members had been heard. Theses members of staff had ten and fourteen years service and were amongst our most experienced and valued.
The second reason was to address the rants contained in the G.M’s ‘Open Letter’ to all Councillors, sent after he had been issued with a final written warning.
With regard to any appeal by the General Manager, Rickerby’s advice had been that the G.M. could appeal, but that this would need to be heard by an H.R. firm specialising in employment issues, as the four senior officials of the RPRA had all been involved in the initial hearing.
The G.M. had also complicated issues by writing to all Councillors with his own version of events. This left no-one in the organization who had not made some sort of judgement on the matter. All Councillors had therefore become briefed leaving no-one with an unbiased view. The ‘G.M.’s appeal therefore by necessity had to be heard by an independent body. The G.M. was therefore asked to select from three choices of H.R. Consultants all based in or around Cheltenham. This would have given him a totally independent assessment of his case. This he declined to take up.
On 23rd October at 1.30p.m. the President addressed Councillors. He introduced the solicitor from Rickerby’s, who had been asked to attend to advise Councillors on employment law procedure and answer their questions. The President and Vice-Presidents had followed the RPRA’s Solicitors advice throughout the process but felt it would be helpful to Councillors to be able to put their own questions directly.
However a proposition was received from the Cumbria Region to ask any non RPRA members to leave the room. This was passed. After some discussion a second proposition was received ‘Not to hear the solicitor’s advice’. This was also passed and she was informed that she could leave the building.
The President had prepared a full written response to the G.M’s ‘Open Letter’ for each Councillor and stood up to explain its contents. However the mood of the meeting was such that he had little chance to speak. After about ten minutes a proposition was received from an E.M.R Councillor of “No confidence in the President and Vice-Presidents”. This was seconded by the N.E Region. The President and Vice-Presidents were also told that they were not allowed to vote on this issue.
The voting was 13 For and 9 Against. Had the four officials been allowed to vote as in RPRA Rule 54 the voting would have been 13 For and 13 Against so the ‘status quo’ would have remained.
Our Points are:-
The solicitor should have been heard.
The President’s response to the legal issue and the G.M’s Open Letter should have been heard.
The conclusion must be that certain Councillors were disinterested in the answers and therefore working to a different agenda.
The facts remain that the four officials remain in office:
RPRA Rule 39 is quite clear ……..that the President & Vice-Presidents shall be elected at the A.G.M. from four different Regions and shall hold office for one year. …..
It is also a fact that Votes of ‘No Confidence’ simply reflect the mood of a meeting on one particular day and do not require officials to ‘stand down’.
Brian Walsh (RPRA – President:) John Gladwin, Ray Harris & Geoff Richmond (Vice-Presidents).
http://www.formula1lofts.com please have a look at our web site
John Gladwin
flying name Gladwin & Jarvis
Further Update -
The statement by Les Blacklock, Richard Carlton, Pat Mitchell and Brian Tattersall gives no clarification of the meeting of councillors held on 23rd October 2014.
A proposition from the north east region was on the agenda for the council meeting on 24 October 2014.This proposition had been received at the Reddings by the general manager on 7th October 2014 too late to be included on the council agenda for October as per R.P.R.A. Rule 48.
The proposition passed at the north east region on the 4th October 2014, sent by letter dated 6th October 2014 proposed a vote of no confidence in the R.P.R.A .president and vice-presidents and requires them to leave office with immediate effect'.
R.P.R.A. Rule 39 states 'The officers of the association shall be a president and 3 vice-presidents who shall be elected from delegates representing 4 different local regions at the A.G.M. of the association and shall hold office for one year'.
The vote taken on the proposition (13 for with 9 against) was not taken in accordance with the rules of the R.P.R.A.
R.P.R.A. Rule 54 states 'Each councillor shall have 1 vote’. There are 27 councillors. Some councillors' votes were not counted.
The meeting was not called to order before a vote was taken for an acting chairman and 3 advisors, now called support councillors.(Not one of these positions is recognised under R.P.R.A. Rules).
Many councillors were out of the room. The vote for acting chairman was 14 for with 1 against and 0 abstentions. The vote for the advisors was 11 for with 0 against and 8 abstentions.
Les Blacklock quotes R.P.R.A. Rule 38, but only in part. R.P.R.A. Rule 38 states 'The ultimate control of the affairs of the association shall be exercised by the council in general meeting.....'
This does give council the democratic right to remove any officer from office that has been elected under R.P.R.A. Rule 39.
It is important to consider how council arrived at this position.
It is a fact that e-mails had been sent by the general manager to all councillors.
It is a fact that a special meeting was called for under R.P.R.A. Rule 51.
R.P.R.A. Rule 51 requires the signatures of the councillors requesting the meeting. There were not 15 signatures as suggested by Les Blacklock, but enough for the request to be considered by the president and vice-presidents
R.P.R.A. rule states ’Only business of a non-routine or urgent nature shall be dealt with at a special meeting of the council but the decision of the president and vice-presidents as to whether any matter is non-routine or urgent is final.
Fact .The signatory councillors wanted a special meeting to hear the appeal of Stewart Wardrop against the disciplinary action taken against him.
Fact. The president did refuse to call a special meeting.
The advice from the association's solicitor was that the appeal of Stewart Wardrop must be heard by an outside HR company. The general manager had been given a choice from 3.
The president called a meeting of councillors for 23rd October 2014 to advise of the actions taken with regard to the general manager. The association's solicitor was invited to the meeting to advise on employment law and to answer any questions.
A number of councillors would not hear the solicitor speak and shouted down the president when he attempted to address the meeting.
There was a special meeting called in 2009 and I was one of those that signed the request.
The meeting was requested because the president, Les Blacklock, and the vice-presidents were breaking R.P.R.A .rules. They wanted to change R.P.R.A .rule 241 by using R.P.R.A. rule 142 and get councillors to agree by the means of a 'round robin'.
R.P.R.A. Rule 142 states 'That council shall have power to make and alter rules and regulations to cover any emergency. Such rules and regulations may be made or altered at a general meeting or a special meeting...'
If the rule was to be altered it had to be done at a special meeting of council as the rule states.
In this case a special meeting was not called because Stewart Wardrop's appeal could not be heard at council. Council recognised this fact by passing a proposition on the 23rd October 2014 that the general manager's appeal should be heard by an outside HR company.
The issue has not been snowballed into a full blown debate as those that say they will keep the R.P.R.A. functional will not let the other side of the argument be heard.
They have prevented the editor from publishing my letters, which I had hoped would keep the membership informed.
Les Blacklock talks of democracy and democratic rights. Where is my democratic right to let the membership know my side of the debate?
Let us not forget the real reason why this situation as arisen. Two long serving members of staff at the Reddings had made written complaints against Stewart Wardrop .The general manager stated that as general manager he was the only one able to hear their grievances.
The president and vice-presidents took advice from the association's solicitors they advised that the grievances must be heard by the president and vice-presidents. The solicitor's advice was followed throughout the grievance procedure.
Sadly the R.P.R.A .have lost a very valuable member of staff who had worked for the association for 10 years because she was unable to work any longer with Stewart Wardrop.
Ray Harris
Vice President